Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 135 Location: Townsville nth Qld
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: Windows 7
Microsoft's Windows juggernaut is collapsing under its own weight, as it tries to support 20 years of applications and becomes more complicated by the minute, according to analyst firm Gartner.
To compound Windows' problems, it has outgrown the hardware it requires and customers are considering skipping Vista and waiting for Microsoft's next-generation Windows 7, the analyst firm has said, adding that, if Windows is going to remain relevant, it will need radical changes.
Speaking at the Gartner Symposium/ITxpo in Las Vegas on Wednesday, Gartner analysts Michael Silver and Neil MacDonald asked the audience whether Microsoft needed to radically change its approach to Windows; around half of the managers and executives gathered in the room raised their hands. "Windows is too monolithic," said Silver.
Silver added that clients have asked Gartner whether they should skip Vista entirely and wait for Windows 7, which promises to be more modular and potentially lightweight in comparison.
Silver said he recommends that IT executives do use Vista, but on an attrition basis, so that, as PCs with Windows XP are retired, they are replaced with PCs running Vista.
MacDonald argued that Windows may need multiple kernels to support increasing demands from customers and hardware makers. "One size doesn't fit all," he said.
If Microsoft is to fix Windows' problems, the company needs to do a number of things, the analysts said. For a start, Microsoft should create multiple versions of Windows for specific uses. These modules would be able to be swapped out, depending on the customer, they said.
"The more interesting question here is whether one OS [operating system] can address [cloud computing and real-time architecture]," the analysts asked. "Microsoft believes that it can take its core Windows software offering and package it to address these different architectures. But can this same approach be extended to embrace cloud computing and real-time architecture demands?"
MacDonald also questioned what the OS will look like once applications are virtualised, and whether a full OS is needed in every deployment. He suggested it was not necessary and that the OS may be taken over by the hypervisor. "Something as common sense as 'I'd like Office to go with me' doesn't work under current licensing," he said.
The bottom line for Gartner is that Windows needs to be replaced, lock-in needs to end and product schedules need to be more predictable, the analysts said, adding that Windows should also be more manageable. The Windows user experience will become less integrated and more "a composite adaptive work space", they said, meaning that some applications will be tied to location and the user's identity.
Credit: Gartner: Windows collapsing under its own weight; Radical change needed from ZDNet.com
Looks like Vista is already on the way out. The IT guys at work claim Vista
is a stop gap measure between Xp and Windows seven, they claim the situation is the same as windows Millennium, which was designed to satisfy windows users until XP arrived.
Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 322 Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:51 am Post subject:
I don’t get it?
Windows millennium was a stop gap but that was never a secret, they were capitalising like everyone else on the turn of the century. “Oh no all the computers in the world will crash at midnight” You better buy a new one then
Vista is already well into its second year and windows 7 is a long way off, in fact I don’t think it’s even hit the alpha stage of development yet. Microsoft operating systems with the acceptation of millennium have 4-6 year replacement cycles. We are already half way through. Ever since Windows 95, Microsoft has been crumbling under its own weight, the bloated operating system will never last and Linux will soon take over the world. Then what? The focus will just turn on the evil Linux operating system instead of Microsoft and Microsoft becomes the worlds savour. Interesting, the rant stays the same but the name of the company changes, Coke vs Dr Pepper CBS vs NBC. These same comments get regurgitated over and over and I have found myself disinterested after so many years of hearing the sky is falling.
Tall poppy syndrome is not unique to Australia either and if Microsoft have done anything wrong. It was the assumption they could compete in markets that were available to everyone else. Companies large and small live and die on the quality of their service, the skill of their staff and the innovation in their products. In some countries ( EU ) Microsoft cannot “imbed” IE into its operating system. Somehow doing this breaches there competition laws. Imagine if this was a car maker like Holden and they were told they could not add an upgrade to the engine because it might compete too much with ford or others. It’s madness that the reason you are handcuffed is because you’re good at what you do.
The overwhelming proof that I see in this article is that all sides are throwing mud and everyone is still getting dirty. Gartner and in particular Michael Silver have been accused of being both Microsoft Puppets and its biggest critic. So which is it? And why does Larry Dignan, Editor in Chief of ZDNet and Editorial Director of ZDNet sister site TechRepublic put so much stoke in the words of someone with divided loyalties and well publicised conflicts of interest? Silver after all is well known for his involvement in Linux and so is Larry Dignan. Just a little Bias and maybe some conflict of interest you might say as one eyed as a Collingwood fan.
I bought and installed Windows Vista Ultimate and I would highly recommend it to everyone
Kind Regards,
Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 135 Location: Townsville nth Qld
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject:
I too bought Vista although I bought home premium. In the last 10 minutes "Windows explorer has stopped working" three times and is still displaying that message and will continue to do so until I reboot. Firefox is the only thing that will work on my pc until I reboot. IE locks up when explorer does.
I really want to be enjoying the vista experience the same way Gavin is but its just not happening for me. At present I can not even access the start bar to reboot. At present I feel I have bought a dud. I paid money for something that just will not work as advertised. Hopefully there will be some sort of patch in the not to distant future that will make it work properly.
Any way I'm off to Alt Ctrl Del again and see if I can get this thing restarted with out hitting the reset switch.
Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 322 Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject:
I feel your pain, there is nothing more annoying than something not working when it should. I wish there was something i could do to help you out. If you lived in Perth i would come and have a look for you.
Have you tried calling Microsoft? Perhaps they would be more helpful over the phone.
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